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Anonymous Sun 13 Apr 2025 23:06:38 No.521678460 View Reply Original Report

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Fresh moves edition!

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>>521603049

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:38:39 No.521749698 Report

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blah blah blah im going to blah blah blah
waaaahh no im too good for it im above that!

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:38:59 No.521749724 Report

Quoted By: >>521749876 >>521750279

>>521749482
Cris it's too late for that gravy train AI killed coomer patreons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:40:46 No.521749876 Report

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>>521749724
nooo
don't ruin the last hope and dream i have left
damn you ai
damn yoooou

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:43:47 No.521750149 Report

Quoted By: >>521750323 >>521750339 >>521750686 >>521751606

>you will never have literal slop served by Valve

https://howtomarketagame.com/2025/04/14/what-i-heard-from-valve-at-gdc/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:44:28 No.521750206 Report

Quoted By: >>521750557

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3444870/Rogue_Bricks/
i dont get why anyone would even buy this game let alone leave a review. they're either bots or just bad with money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:44:41 No.521750221 Report

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FANART

NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:45:21 No.521750279 Report

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>>521749482
Just make good game. Simple as. Coomslop only leads to misery. Besides >>521749724 is right you and you know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:45:44 No.521750323 Report

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>>521750149
um thats not slop its a Rustic Hand-Crafted Brekkie Bowl

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:45:59 No.521750339 Report

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>>521750149
that looks hearty and delicious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:46:44 No.521750409 Report

Quoted By: >>521750656

>>521738876
I'm not depending on Steam to promote my game though. It's just a storefront, I'll do my own promotion and guerilla marketing. I feel like lately people are taking Steam's discoverability for granted.
>>521738918
Achtkually it's 10 dollars per copy, and the game will hopefully be done in 1 year. 10k sales would be an amazing success. Even if I make the same as a burger flipper, at least I did it doing something I enjoy (and improved my skills in the process) and didn't have to put up with serving karens and fat people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:47:30 No.521750483 Report

Quoted By: >>521750640 >>521750695

i never download games off itch even if they're free, the zip file is so sketchy and there could be a virus in the exe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:48:25 No.521750557 Report

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>>521750206

velet 542
2 reviews

masaj makinesi 4000
3 reviews

it's his mom and sister

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:49:17 No.521750640 Report

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>>521750483

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:49:31 No.521750656 Report

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>>521750409
>I'm not depending on Steam to promote my game
NGMI. Using Steam to promote your game is by far the number one most common way to reach success.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:49:51 No.521750686 Report

Quoted By: >>521750982 >>521751408

>>521750149
So literally nobody outside of Valve knows how the algorithm works, everyone just gives out bullshit interpretations based on the data they see but with no actual proof.
The more of this "how to market your game" blogs/videos I read and watch, the more I think they're completely useless and I'm better off isolating myself from the internet finishing my game and just dropping it on Steam, maybe buy an ad on 4chan or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:49:56 No.521750695 Report

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>>521750483
well, especially if they are free no? if you sell one and it has a virus you lose customers

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:51:29 No.521750837 Report

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>>521749194
You leave tutorial hell as soon as you grasp all essentials to your engine and language. As soon as you know how things work, your mind comes off with the solution naturally. For a bicycle you'd need first to decide what approach you need. Scripted, physics-based or whatever else. Then you pick the fitting node or whatever it's called and expand from there. It all comes down to the base fact that all you see in games is nothing else than simple shapes moving around doing whatever you want with some fancy models plastered on top of em. Know how the basics work and you can make anything.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:52:12 No.521750904 Report

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>>521750557
Dev is from the US and the reviewer from Turkey

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:52:16 No.521750910 Report

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the best thing zukowski said adding horror to an unpopular genre makes it tens times better

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:52:55 No.521750982 Report

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>>521750686
Also wishlists are weighted, thirdies accounts that don't purchase a lot of games don't count that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:53:34 No.521751040 Report

Quoted By: >>521752409

>>521750837
>as soon as you grasp all essentials to your engine and language

so never?

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:55:21 No.521751216 Report

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>>521745857
Truthpill right here. Most people produce slop and hope to become rich with it over night. That's not how it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:55:32 No.521751237 Report

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https://steamdb.info/app/2765490/charts/

The last 2 /agdg/ multi years games flopped...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:57:24 No.521751408 Report

Quoted By: >>521751642

>>521750686
>So literally nobody outside of Valve knows how the algorithm works
this is the case for almost every (promotional) algorithm in existence. this is like saying youtubers shouldn't try to game the algorithm and make clickbait thumbnails, because only youtube employees really know how the algorithm works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:59:11 No.521751571 Report

Quoted By: >>521751998

2d is so nice, you can get away with way more stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:59:34 No.521751606 Report

Quoted By: >>521753184

>>521750149
According to this employee, there are 3 tiers of player accounts and a wishlists from each of them have different weights:

The lowest is an account with 0 purchases, and 0 play time (most likely a bot account)
Middle tier is an account that looks like a real person but one that isn’t that engaged with Steam (I forgot all the factors the Valve person said but I think it was something like, they haven’t spent a lot of money, haven’t played many different games, aren’t doing much wishlisting)
The top tier wishlist is from an account that spends a lot of money, logs in frequently, wishlists a lot of games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:59:59 No.521751641 Report

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>>521745857
THRVTH NVKE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 13:59:59 No.521751642 Report

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>>521751408
You can't really click bait people into buying a game

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:00:27 No.521751691 Report

Quoted By: >>521751869

>>521750656
>but the numbers say-
Don't care.
>but statistics show-
Don't care.
>but everyone else does-
Don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:01:03 No.521751747 Report

Quoted By: >>521751923 >>521751932

if you make over a million in rev steam sends you...a box of chocolates. this is fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:01:33 No.521751797 Report

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>>521745857
Wrong, games become "good" via factors outside your control like amongus. It was a flop then COVID happened.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:02:21 No.521751869 Report

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>>521751691
>>NGMI
>Don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:02:36 No.521751890 Report

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>>521749445
Never gonna make... What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:02:44 No.521751902 Report

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Done with my work for the day

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:02:45 No.521751904 Report

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Soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:02:59 No.521751923 Report

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>>521751747
When Steam Deck came out, they sent one to every single developer who had at least 500 reviews.
They're 100% going to do the same with Steam Deck 2.
Will your game be out (and successful) by then? Better hurry anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:03:07 No.521751932 Report

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>>521751747
Eric schizo why do you keep posting this? Like yeah it's funny but what you want us to say? It's just a PR gesture

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:03:47 No.521751998 Report

Quoted By: >>521752527

>>521751571
Going 3D as a solo dev is setting yourself up for failure

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:04:38 No.521752081 Report

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>>521751980
>>521751980
>>521751980

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:04:47 No.521752094 Report

Quoted By: >>521752210

Why don't games use bass heavy sound effects anymore? Gunshots and explosions in games used to shake the room with deep bass, even back when the sfx were bit crushed.
Why did every developer switch to "realistic", anemic popcorn noises for guns and bombs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:06:01 No.521752202 Report

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>>521745857
Post GREAT games made by solodevs besides minecraft

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:06:05 No.521752210 Report

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>>521752094
Everyone uses a headset now grandpa. Also viewers need to hear the streamer talking.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:08:08 No.521752409 Report

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>>521751040
Look at how games are designed and how to the basics function. Tutorials can help during this phase, but are only the introduction most of the time.
An example: Many characters you see in vidya have a primitive shape collider (most often a tick tack shaped capsule) that is responsible for collision and smooth movement. Why a ticktack? Because box-shaped colliders tend to get stuck in edges etc. Movement is done via script which processes the player's input. Tutorials can help here teaching you the basics of movement. This collider is invisible and in its centre is the actual playermodel, which, depending on the action the player inputs, plays an animation, like run etc. Attacks and interactions can be done in different ways, but in fps games many are done with hitscan or raycast techniques. Those are invisible lines drawn from one position to another and trigger events on the target when a certain action is performed, like firing a shot or something. One could continue endlessly here, explaining all the techniques you could use, but for your own project, see what things exactly you need research how others have done it. When you have those basics down, you should be able to dev on your own most of the time. But at the end of the day, you mostly command geometric shapes to do your bidding and display the result to the player.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:09:27 No.521752527 Report

Quoted By: >>521752910

>>521751998
The market is crying out for a wholesome chunguslike indiecoded side scrolling 2D gemerald

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:13:21 No.521752910 Report

Quoted By: >>521753135

>>521752527
it is though
seriouscoded 2d sidescroller doesn't work, remember the game from the "big dog blizzard artist"? Me neither.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:15:47 No.521753135 Report

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>>521752910
It isn't, thoughever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:16:22 No.521753184 Report

Quoted By: >>521754315

>>521751606
lmao, my guess is that they detected Jeets botting wishlists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 14:29:00 No.521754315 Report

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>>521753184
whales have a lower wishlists/purchases ratio
this heuristic should be in place from day 0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 16:25:40 No.521766729 Report

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>>521715248
Tranny pedo sexpest

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gogem.pro Mon 14 Apr 2025 17:03:17 No.521770684 Report

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>>521745857
cosmically; in the great eternity; in the infinite of artistic legacy; you are correct

in the flesh and blood reality of a creator and their creation though you are wrong

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