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Anonymous Sun 24 Nov 2024 08:14:14 No.503452629 View Reply Original Report

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>Terry Teaser, Gameplay and Guide trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQnF07Owwd8 [Open]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LUExu3qU-o [Open]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDPhkX2oMmQ [Open]

>Year 2 Character Reveal Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVPqv7ZyfWo [Open]

>The official Capcom Pro Tour 2024 website is live
https://sf.esports.capcom.com/cpt/

>S2 Balance Patch
https://www.streetfighter.com/6/buckler/battle_change/20240626

>High level replays
https://replaytheater.app/?game=sf6

>Street Fighter 6 Frame Data
https://ultimateframedata.com/sf6/
https://fullmeter.com/fatonline/#/calculators

>SuperCombo Wiki
https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/Street_Fighter_6

>Fighting Game Glossary
https://glossary.infil.net/

>Use Fightcade to play ST, A2, A3, 3S, CVS2, etc
https://www.fightcade.com/

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:20:57 No.503558582 Report

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>>503557836
If they truly asked this Bison, Honda, AKI, Ed, Juri and Lily wouldn't be in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:33:29 No.503559768 Report

Quoted By: >>503560910

This game lacks actual talented people behind the scenes.
And no, hiring pro players won't fix this because being a pro doesn't mean your opinion is good.
Shroud's new FPS game that just died in less than 3 months is proof that hiring a person just because they are sweet at the game, doesn't mean they understand the science of what makes a good game and what not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:36:03 No.503560018 Report

Quoted By: >>503564393

Who thought it was a good idea for random assholes to interrupt matches in the hub?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:45:14 No.503560910 Report

Quoted By: >>503561231 >>503561997 >>503563263

>>503559768
>hiring pro players won't fix this because being a pro doesn't mean your opinion is good.
Truthpill. Daigo and Punk are good at the game but both got retard takes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:47:08 No.503561072 Report

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>>503555183
they consulted japanese moms and smelly twitter fujos on their opinion on the game. The game is designed for someone who has no idea whats happening to say "wow!!!" at every interaction

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:48:56 No.503561231 Report

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>>503560910
my idea of an ideal game doesn't line up with daigo but i think his takes are good. they seemed bad early in sf6 but as hes had more time to think about the game and more translated stuff got to us, his opinions make sense. punks takes are all based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:49:25 No.503561270 Report

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>>503546793
you need heart. You can't just play safe and intelligently in this game, you need to just commit to something and do a big combo into another random guess. You might be more knowledgeable than your opponent but you aren't making big plays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 03:57:32 No.503561997 Report

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>>503560910
those are pro players that are actually good. The "pros" that constantly talk about wanting to work behind the scenes or have input are the frauds like broski who find one robbery characters years into a game and cling to them for dear life because they can't play the game otherwise. They're the ones making endless twitter posts about the latest thing to appear knowledgeable.
Then you have people below even that level, like rooflemonger and james chen, who are just plain bad at fighting games despite playing their entire lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:05:10 No.503562705 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:05:56 No.503562770 Report

Quoted By: >>503563073 >>503563176 >>503563318 >>503564851 >>503571032

What are Ed's weaknesses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:09:19 No.503563073 Report

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>>503562770
ed is weak to my bbc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:10:32 No.503563176 Report

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>>503562770
Ed's weaknesses are that he isn't Akuma and doesn't have great desert storm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:11:21 No.503563263 Report

Quoted By: >>503564340 >>503564765

>>503560910
Things Daigo has mentioned wanting
>PP should only work on specials
>reversals that lead to side swaps (cammy's EX DP and EX amnesia) should be removed
>psuedo-reversals that have low risk and high reward (every TK EX divekick) should be removed
>walking back all the way into the corner from frame 1 roundstart should incur a meter penalty to discourage people from doing it
>heavies should wallsplat in burnout
All of these sound fine to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:11:56 No.503563318 Report

Quoted By: >>503563758

>>503562770
No overhead
Slow DP. Can't crosscut and auto-correct reliably.
Weak conversions from lights
Loses the zoning game if you have an option outside of his flicker range like fireball > DR

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:16:04 No.503563758 Report

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>>503563318
nigga really said "weak conversions from lights" when every ed player and their mom mashes cr.lk > EX blitz > level 2 into 5 minute long dream combo the second they exit blockstun

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:16:56 No.503563857 Report

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I sent a bunch of friend invites to people in ranked who beat me a lot and none of them accepted. +1900 MR will never be a reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:20:09 No.503564162 Report

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Every time I fight an Akuma in this game I feel jealous. I think I'll just bite the bullet and main the asshole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:21:54 No.503564340 Report

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>>503563263
Daigo also unironically praised Dix's making aggression way too easy so everyone is mashing and raping each other like apes and he never criticized throwloops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:22:30 No.503564393 Report

Quoted By: >>503564619

>>503560018
>interrupt
were you the moron in BH complaining about people 'stealing' your cab? don't lose, git gud, get a room, etc, etc. you are the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:24:42 No.503564619 Report

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>>503564393
Yes I was, and I'll do it every time too. It takes me a while to adjust to a Guile anon, and I'm already bad at the game as is. Custom rooms are a no go because that involves talking to people more than I'd like to, and no one is going to get anything out of fighting me so I have no means to entice someone into joining a custom room with me beyond padding their winrates. Also fuck you and anyone else who interrupts matches. That was literally my first one against him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:26:24 No.503564765 Report

Quoted By: >>503565149 >>503565226

>>503563263
>>walking back all the way into the corner from frame 1 roundstart should incur a meter penalty to discourage people from doing it
Braindead take. Punishing people from playing a valid strategy because you think is "lame" only leads to more problem.
Nickelodeon smash clone had devs who hated zoners, so zoning in that game was non existant, which made gameplay even more linear, less diverse, and bad at the end.
Trying to force everyone to play aggro is literally going to make the game even more boring because then, being aggro won't be hype, or unique anymore, and just the default style.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:27:21 No.503564851 Report

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>>503562770
>What are Ed's weaknesses?
lingering hit boxes especially on his cr.mk, unironically sweeps are strong and obvs low fwd drc, lab it a

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:30:06 No.503565131 Report

Quoted By: >>503566449

I think I'll make a smurf account. I don't stand a chance in master anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:30:14 No.503565149 Report

Quoted By: >>503565819

>>503564765
are you one of those "people" who start their rounds with fullscreen walk back fireball DR every single time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:31:18 No.503565226 Report

Quoted By: >>503565819 >>503567587

>>503564765
>Trying to force everyone to play aggro is literally going to make the game even more boring because then, being aggro won't be hype, or unique anymore, and just the default style.
Even Punk pointed that shit out like last year or so.
In Jive aggression was earned, but you could also even play lame with an aggro character like Karin if you had the footsies, while in Mickey 6, everyone is taught to do corner rapery.
People who say this game defense is OP are absolutely crazy, this is the most babymode game ever made so every random can feel like prime Punk dishing absurd damage from doing nothing but low risk high reward options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:35:59 No.503565672 Report

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>>503500371
The fuck happened to his nipples?
You know, this picture is exactly why Capcom is so slow at pumping out costumes, they don't even bother to actually model characters properly. No layers or anything, just a rushed out body.
Jesus christ look at his shoulders, straight out of the World Tour character creator lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:37:41 No.503565819 Report

Quoted By: >>503566668

>>503565149
>Completely ignoring everything I said to strawman
Braindead.

>>503565226
Funny thing is that Punk is also a retard like Daigo who thought a game where aggression is free and the "lame" playstyles are bad, would be the answer, but unlike Daigo, Punk actually noticed how forcing the "hype" playstyle to be the standard for everyone while nerfing all other "lame" playstyles just makes your game even more stale.
Aggression is not skillful, or special if everyone can do it. Aggression is not fun to watch, if all other playstyles are gutted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:44:28 No.503566449 Report

Quoted By: >>503568958

>>503565131
people complain about a bunch of garbage about MR, but nobody complains about the lack of "placement".
every good game with elo has placement matches and put you higher or lower based on that. in sf6, even if you are 800 mr in skill, the game will aalways put you in 1500 and force you to lose a bunch.
or the opposite, force somebody super good grind from 1500 to 2000

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:46:46 No.503566668 Report

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>>503565819
>Punk actually noticed how forcing the "hype" playstyle to be the standard for everyone while nerfing all other "lame" playstyles just makes your game even more stale.
Because Punk still has the skill to defuse the generic player playing defensive. Daigo so washed he wants the entire game to be rushdown fiesta so he doesn't need to worry about being dicked by a camping random.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 04:56:47 No.503567587 Report

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>>503565226
>People who say this game defense is OP
when people say that, they mean that you can reverse the situation and do high damage from a disadvantaged position easily. yeah you will eat a 60% level 3 combo if you guess wrong, but if you guess right, you get 50% + corner + oki and for less risk that would be required in jive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:12:06 No.503568958 Report

Quoted By: >>503569347 >>503569397

>>503566449
The entirety of SF6 ranked doesn't make any sense to me. Who does it serve to push people up only to smack them so hard they never play ranked again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:16:53 No.503569347 Report

Quoted By: >>503569435

>>503568958
1300 mr is only like 20 losses. they can survive

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Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:17:18 No.503569397 Report

Quoted By: >>503569969 >>503570696 >>503573376

>>503568958
in japan pulling up to the arcade and getting washed 100-0 before you can start taking games off people is something they expect and are prepared to do. arcade culture is still alive and well there. this is why the number of people who play ranked in japan vs the rest of the world is so disproportionate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:17:43 No.503569435 Report

Quoted By: >>503570652

>>503569347
The cognitive dissonance of master rank is the problem. When you lose that many matches you should be kicked out. Being bad and being master feels worse than being bad and not being master.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:24:07 No.503569969 Report

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>>503569397
>Gief is popular in Russia
Heh, neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:28:46 No.503570349 Report

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does the ussr still exist in street fighter or does zangief represent russia now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:29:24 No.503570397 Report

Quoted By: >>503570507

>opponent hovers over quit
>thinks about it for a couple seconds
>flips back and rematches
>utterly destroy them in two fast rounds
that nigga is never gonna second guess the one and done ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:30:24 No.503570507 Report

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>>503570397
They probably just accidentally pressed jump on their cheatbox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:31:57 No.503570652 Report

Quoted By: >>503571389

>>503569435
>cognitive dissonance
oh man boomers, zoomers and weekend warriors have tainted your prized Master rank, what ever will you do

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:32:34 No.503570696 Report

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>>503569397
>Japan plays the game
>NA pretends to play the game
>Everybody else doesn't
This game is completely fraudulent isn't it? The popularity if a total lie, outside of Japan this shit is nowhere to be seen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:36:27 No.503571032 Report

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>>503562770
Weak anti airs
Weak to legitimate zoning, Sim and JP can give him trouble if he gives them the screen. Sim's one of his 2 maybe bad matchups
Ed is the easiest character in the game to DI if they're bad and auto piloting
uhhhhhhh
Ed's a strong character, top 3. Even the points I've made aren't exactly indictments any more than Bison downplayers saying he's got no reversal or whatever. Once he gets nerfed he'll be fun though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:39:49 No.503571327 Report

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no i won't watch sfl

stop trying to turn street fighter into a reality show

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:40:33 No.503571389 Report

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>>503570652
It just feels bad to be a master rank when I'm incompetent. Wanting my rank to reflect my lack of skill is just asking too much I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:47:06 No.503571971 Report

Quoted By: >>503572038

evens I edge all night long to chun li's feet
odds I grind to master

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:47:16 No.503571995 Report

Quoted By: >>503572476

They're going to have to start adding region-based score multipliers for MR to get non-Jappas to actually play the game at this rate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:47:44 No.503572038 Report

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>>503571971
Don't bother. Just play hub. It's better anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:53:14 No.503572476 Report

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>>503571995
and character based score multipliers
>akuma, ken, rashid, bison, dhalsim, gief, luke, juri
multiply MR by 0.8
>aki, marisa, kim, blanka, jamie, cammy, JP
multiply MR by 0.9
>chun, ryu, honda, manon, lily
multiply MR by 1.3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 05:59:51 No.503572995 Report

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>figure i'll just boot up to do some drills in training mode before bend
>looking at menu screen
>end up booting up ranked
im addicted

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 06:02:15 No.503573186 Report

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am I good if I've beaten Sonicsol every time I run into him on ranked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 25 Nov 2024 06:04:26 No.503573376 Report

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>>503569397
>600~ master players in germany
>Master rank now makes up something like 20% of the playerbase
there are barely 3000 people in germany playing this shit

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