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Anonymous Tue 19 Sep 2023 23:39:24 No.447092248 View Reply Original Report

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Project Diablo 2 Info:
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>General changes from D2:LoD
https://wiki.projectdiablo2.com/wiki/General_Changes

>Classic D2:LoD installers
https://www.battle.net/download/getLegacy?os=win&locale=enUS&product=D2DV
https://www.battle.net/download/getLegacy?os=win&locale=enUS&product=D2XP

>Season 8 patch notes
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lJCGca4JE0IRCxANNii_AAYJgv2HhTLVFYchbWi208c/edit#heading=h.9kegd15e6zbz

>Season 7 tier list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1izddjA1cl0eN6stVs9fqmkufy-M7ygXTajp8c93SnBQ/edit#gid=0

Other Diablo info:
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>D4: Dead

>D3: Final season.

>D2R: No changes. Sunset by blizzard.

>D:I: No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2023 22:22:07 No.448118129 Report

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>>448114751
just ask someone on the sub or one of the discords

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2023 22:34:15 No.448119540 Report

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>>448114751
drop to torment 3, go to a pvp area, flag yourself with the item and run to the boss mob

killed some lowbie and he didn't even turn his character to acknowledge what was happening to him. felt weird

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Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2023 23:13:42 No.448123887 Report

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>>448114751
Clone yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Sep 2023 23:40:35 No.448126756 Report

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>>448067429
>i didn't really care about getting new items or skill changes but some qol stuff would have been really nice. a few of the minor things pd2 does would be easy to implement. like stacking of runes or gems or a repeatable larzuk/charsi quest type thing.
No this would have been a garbage idea and makes botters even more powerful.

>selling Ber and Jah runes
>have 1000 in stock ;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 00:17:29 No.448130514 Report

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>>448126756
anon i don't know how to tell you this, but they make a million mules either way. caring about botters to live in inconvenience is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 00:43:02 No.448133239 Report

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>>448114751
Ask someone in-game to go to the pvp area to trade kills. Go ahead and kill each other 20 times or whatever since you get the higher tier version of that done for the season as well as unlocking some special titles. I got lucky and found someone that did it for free, but had offered 5 mil gold before it wasn't trade disabled to get it done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 01:34:07 No.448138009 Report

Quoted By: >>448139662

is trade still disabled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 01:50:54 No.448139662 Report

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>>448138009
Anyone still playing this game is disabled

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 01:51:15 No.448139696 Report

Quoted By: >>448140235 >>448142967 >>448144259 >>448194572

I hate to be that guy but I genuinely have no idea how PoE got so fucking popular when the game is quantity over quality

Too much shit is so fucking unfun and having your resistances fucked by 60% after finishing the campaign and forcing you to balance them out isn't good design at all
And nevermind if that value is below 75%, you might as well fucking eat shit and die
And forget about even playing chunks of content if you're melee
I need some other ARPG

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 01:56:53 No.448140235 Report

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>>448139696
the problem with PoE is that builds get so broken that instead of adjusting shit, they design all content to require you to just not get hit to account for their shit design decisions
Just look at sanctum, which has a one-hit death challenge

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 02:26:45 No.448142967 Report

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>>448139696
the game wasn't supposed to last this long, it became way too bloated years ago and the devs boner for being inflexible around their design philosophies aren't helping which is why there was such a lukewarm response to poe2

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 02:40:21 No.448144259 Report

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>>448139696
i don't think anyone plays PoE for the gameplay. it's just an addiction for people with nothing going on in their lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 02:44:41 No.448144680 Report

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>>448144259
D4 would fall under that same umbrella as would the entire ARPG genre

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 02:47:14 No.448144879 Report

Quoted By: >>448145790 >>448145938

>>448144680
most arpgs don't have the extreme gambling aspect that poe has for gearing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 02:57:05 No.448145790 Report

Quoted By: >>448160507

>>448144879
to be fair, you're supposed to spend hours haggling with autists and retards, not hours clicking on orbs
crafting is the currency sink they don't expect the average player to use

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 02:58:33 No.448145938 Report

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>>448144879
I know, but if PoE is meth D4 is adderall. Not far off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 05:43:09 No.448160507 Report

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>>448145790
while I love the PD2 experience, the gambling aspects are the only thing keeping me going, and i don’t think it’s healthy, like I should probably be playing other games with actual story, gameplay, and art

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 06:17:24 No.448163054 Report

Quoted By: >>448165548 >>448195535

>>448160507
Don't see why. I wouldn't be here if I didn't already know my ideal video game was a glorified skinner box.
Couldn't get into PD2 though. Seems like it has a meta you have to be already familiar with Diablo 2 to get into.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 06:54:37 No.448165548 Report

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>>448163054
I would say of the glorified skinner boxes diablo has been one of my preferred ones. It's basically a mobile game I can play with a mouse and turn my brain off at the same time.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 07:17:17 No.448167135 Report

Quoted By: >>448170243

>I'm going to log in 11 more times for world boss kills just for a digital title
What is wrong with me?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 08:06:10 No.448170143 Report

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>league of legends gets kpop chicks
>d4 gets elon musk

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 08:07:33 No.448170243 Report

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>>448167135
You are an addict, admitting you have a problem is the first step in recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 08:13:30 No.448170569 Report

Quoted By: >>448171496 >>448181434

damn
i really thought i was going to be excited for the s2 dev streams but i feel absolutely nothing kek.
i'm still going to play... but i truly am not looking forward to whatever bullshit they have to say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 08:29:48 No.448171496 Report

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>>448170569
this season was sabotaged before they even announced it because we knew that season 3 is when leaderboards and progression mechanics are being put in

s2 was always going to be a dud no matter what they end up doing unless they somehow pushed everything forward

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 10:52:00 No.448180702 Report

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1 week until we're back to thriving bros hold on

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Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 11:03:39 No.448181434 Report

Quoted By: >>448182595

>>448170569
what are people seriously expecting from S2? Sure there's going to be some stat fixes and a gem bag(?) but that's just stuff that should have been in the game since launch. The S2 gimmick will be a few hours of (mediocre) gameplay, at best.

This game has 100,000 problems and 3 months is nothing in the development world. It doesn't help that Turd Fergusson doesn't even think there's a problem with the game, he's convinced that 99.99999% of people stopped playing because they couldn't manage their expectations or some bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 11:20:12 No.448182595 Report

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>>448181434
i'm kind of expecting them to rush features from s3 into s2 and push out QOL updates that they were probably saving for the expansion, there's no reasson to hype 2 streams otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 11:36:42 No.448183828 Report

Quoted By: >>448184256 >>448186185

I will ssf until I beat hell baal as is tradition. First person to reply decides class and build

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Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 11:39:59 No.448184081 Report

Quoted By: >>448184256 >>448185974 >>448199308

>they are already doing damage control for the overhype they created
make sure to keep playing the s2 until the end to get those qol updates you wanted
hahahhahahahahahah holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 11:42:24 No.448184256 Report

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>>448183828
barb leapquake
>>448184081
I've just stopped caring about anything blizzard says or does as it'll never not be lolcow tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 12:03:59 No.448185889 Report

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>>448182595
no way that's happening
they would have at least hinted at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 12:05:03 No.448185974 Report

Quoted By: >>448189492 >>448190849

>>448184081
I hate how their marketing faggots and fanboys can’t stop hyping and raising expectations they can’t deliver

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 12:07:13 No.448186185 Report

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>>448183828
melee enchant sorc

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Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 12:33:11 No.448188285 Report

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holy cope

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Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 12:48:19 No.448189492 Report

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>>448185974
Listen here chud, you need to manage YOU'RE expectations. The game's not meant to be played for more than 2 hours you fucking entitled gamer. This is a YOU problem!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:01:47 No.448190519 Report

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>>448062040
>Ryu
Doesn't matter, best striemer is back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:05:47 No.448190849 Report

Quoted By: >>448191070

>>448185974
it's not their marketing department. it's that faggot rob and the gay asian twink with a few rando devs as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:08:21 No.448191070 Report

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>>448190849
baffles me how tone deaf they are, PD2 literally implemented a few QOL things fans have asked for decades and it’s an instant win, other aspects of PD2 the devs took risk and it’s paid off in most cases, yet a billion dollar company can’t do the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:09:20 No.448191163 Report

Quoted By: >>448191378

Why did they make poison so much worse than bleed? Is there a mechanical difference between the two dots?
Bleed barb feels really strong but posion druid does no damage outside of creeperslide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:11:49 No.448191378 Report

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>>448191163
meanwhile poison rogue rips

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:21:15 No.448192184 Report

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as a side note I'm playing the game again. first time trying hardcore just to see how it feels. I know playing hardcore at launch was very suss but now it seems like it's extremely safe and easy.
invuln pot, scroll of escape and I didn't even use either so far. such a stark difference between poo and d4. when I play hc in poe I feel like I'm always about to die, here I sometimes don't even realize it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:21:16 No.448192185 Report

Quoted By: >>448192820

>>448188285
like earlier, the number is probably close but i would like to know where they got it from too. it seems like it's from twitch viewership and if so that's just headline grabbing garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:28:08 No.448192820 Report

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>>448192185
Twitch viewers, reddit users, search trends and even this thread activity are the metrics we have since Blizzard hides concurrent players. I don't think a 99% drop since launch is unreasonable though, you'd have to be insane to keep playing this garbage when there's so many good games to play atm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:47:51 No.448194572 Report

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>>448139696
As a long time player maybe I can shed some light into it. Originally PoE was designed to appeal to the D2 audience. The combat gameplay wasn't as good but the mechanics supporting it were interesting and that got it the initial following. Over the years the combat got better bit by bit as they worked on the netcode and the engine but on top of that a lot of powercreeping happened and the game slowly devolved into what became known as the speedclear meta. I would say that's around the time when streaming started to pick up. And with the release of the 3.0 update the game started growing in popularity. By that point what was appealing about it was clearing screens in a single click. And they kept pushing into that direction until the devs realized they've gone too far and started slapping player power with a bunch of nerfs. And now we're multiple updates into that nerf cycle. We've gotten some things back like defenses were reworked and the flask system got one as well so you could say that the game's in a better state than it was ~2 years ago but it's in a real shitty state compared to what it was 5+ years ago.

I went on a bit of a rant there but if you ask me the reasons that led to its popularity would be
>original design trying to appeal for oldtimey gamers and fans of D2
>regular new seasons
>at some point they started doing content updates every other season or so
>and the season mechanics got bigger
Seasons give the players a reason to start over and anyone who's played D2 ladders knows how much fun that can be. On top of that having regular new seasons feeds into the streamer and content creator hype cycle. PoE gets a lot of content on youtube leading up to a new season and over the first month of it. In that sense it is a successful GAAS I hate that term. Today it really gets by on that hype cycle and like >>448144259 says, addiction. Many have been playing it for years and it's just a thing they do now when a new season comes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 13:58:09 No.448195535 Report

Quoted By: >>448195742

>>448163054
>Seems like it has a meta you have to be already familiar with Diablo 2 to get into.
Understanding D2 deeply helps and that goes for any D2 mod but I think PD2 is rather well suited for a less knowledgeable player if you don't get into the whole endgame grinding loop. Set up plugy with PD2 and play singleplayer. You can hoard all the interesting stuff and reset skills whenever you want to try out new things. On top of that the PD2 crafting is great for making gear on your journey. Set yourself a goal like killing Baal on Hell and strive to achieve that and then you can quit playing or make a new character if you feel like it.

>>448165548
>It's basically a mobile game
Never say this again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 14:00:42 No.448195742 Report

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>>448195535
well said. pd2 does a great job at smoothing out the difficulty hump some classes might have previously had. melee has splash now and overhauled crafting gives you lots of ways to solve problems in your gear. mercs being more powerful also helps this a lot. then you have freedoms with end game map selections as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 14:24:19 No.448197836 Report

Quoted By: >>448203308 >>448203593

How is PD2 Endgame?
Is there anything to do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 14:40:22 No.448199308 Report

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>>448184081
>spending blizzcon time on fucking qol updates (shit that should have already been in the game) for a season that will already be out
i dont feel so good bros... my $150...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 15:20:47 No.448203308 Report

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>>448197836
holy shit yea. there are entirely new end game objectives in the form of uber bosses and loot and this is all ushered in by the end game map drops where you can roll affixes to them like +mf, density, exp and other difficulty modifiers. there are 4 tiers of maps as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Sep 2023 15:23:36 No.448203593 Report

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>>448197836
this is like if old blizzard north team continued working on it.

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