>>321113Both games seem like something I wouldn't particularly enjoy. I was on a more experimental mood when I decided to play them but now I'm pretty busy so I don't really have time to play them anyway.
And yeah it seems like there are a lot of hands but once you learn them it's pretty easy to remember. I thought you'd at least recognize a kokushi musou. It's basically one of the strongest hands.
>>321119If you draw the last tile that you need yourself everyone pays you and if someone else discards the tile you need they pay you by themselves.